right, so i posted a while back asking how anyone makes haro outreach work. decided to actually test it with data, hired a cheap freelancer to handle the queries and replies for three months. show me the numbers? exactly $2,500 spent on labor, zero placements secured. not even one link. lmao. it's just not scalable for affiliate stuff unless you're in some ultra-niche where journalists are desperate. the volume of relevant queries is basically zero compared to the time cost. back in the day you could maybe grind this out yourself if you had a personal blog, but now it's all agency spam in those pitches anyway. my tracker shows we sent over 200 tailored responses, ctr on journalist replies was under 1%. feels nostalgic for when seo was just about writing good content instead of playing this broken media lottery.
update on that haro connect thing i tried
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bro, exactly, outreach is dead unless u got some sus niche or crazy connections. all these agency pitches are just noise now. better off spending that time on more reliable stuff, fr.
Honestly, Ghost, I think you're onto something but also missing the bigger picture. Yeah, outreach in these over-saturated, spammy niches is dead meat unless you got the kind of creds or juice most of us don't. But that doesn't mean outreach is totally useless. It's just moved to a different game now, more targeted, less spray and pray. You gotta find your "sus" niche, or better yet, build your own assets so you're not chasing journalistic cold pitches that go nowhere. Trust, but verify - just because the old methods are busting doesn't mean the whole outreach concept is toast, but you need to adapt or get left behind.
nah man, I gotta push back on that. i get it outreach is a mess right now but throwing in the towel and calling it dead is short-sighted. sure, the old ways don't work like they used to, but that doesn't mean the entire concept is cooked. it's just about how you approach it, not throwing away the baby with the bathwater. back in my IT days, I saw the same pattern people giving up when the security landscape changed, but those who adapted kept winning. spending time on "more reliable stuff" sounds comfy, but the game is always shifting. outreach can still work if you innovate, if you get creative with your angles and target niches where the demand isn't saturated. you don't need the usual spammy LPs or generic pitches. I've seen guys crack it with a tailored, personal approach, find a real angle, get in front of the right journalist with something valuable, and suddenly it's not a lottery anymore. the old outreach was a numbers game, sure, but that doesn't mean it's all dead. just needs new thinking and less lazy chasing of the same tired methods. you want reliable? build a pipeline that's based on real value, not spam.
Upside
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this is the reality. Outreach used to be easy if you had a blog or some presence, now it's just noise and spam. You chase dead ends, waste time, and get nothing. The game changed, but most people refuse to admit it. They're stuck in old habits, hoping for that miracle link, that sweet placement, but it's just a matter of time before the whole thing collapses into chaos. I did the same with a cheap freelancer, and honestly, I'm not surprised you saw zero results. People think they can throw money at outreach and it'll work like magic, but it's all just noise. Only real juice now is in the niche stuff that nobody else is spamming or in connections you build slow. Rest is just LPs, flops, and frustration.
Summit
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OH MY GOD, I COULD HAVE WRITTEN THAT POST MYSELF. THE HARO THING IS LIKE TRYING TO WIN THE LOTTERY WITH A FRUIT BOWL. SPENT A FORTUNE ON A KID WITH A KEYBOARD, AND NOT EVEN ONE LINK. AND THE CTR? LIKE 0.5% IF YOU'RE LUCKY. I REMEMBER WHEN SEO MEANT WRITING GOOD STUFF, NOT A GAUNTLET OF EMAIL SPAM AND COLD PITCHES THAT SOUND LIKE THEY'RE FROM A BOT. THIS GAME USED TO BE ABOUT QUALITY, NOW IT'S ABOUT HAVING A STACK OF BUDGET AND A MASSIVE EMAIL LIST. THE OLD DAYS ARE GONE, AND MOST PEOPLE ARE STILL RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, DROWNING IN NOISE. FUCK THAT. I'D RATHER RUN MY OWN SHOW AND CONTROL THE CUSTOMER JOURNEY THAN CHASE DEAD ENDS.
Yeah man, exactly.
Haro is just a media lottery now. Spent way more than I wanna admit chasing those low odds and still got zilch.
Bolt
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lol, you guys are still clinging to haro like it's some gold mine? trust me on this one, it's dead. even if you get a reply, chances are it's spam or just a no. that 1% ctr? normal. most of those journalists are flooded with pitches, and they don't care about your affiliate site. the real game now is finding legit backlinks from relevant properties, not wasting time on these media lotteries. agency spam, low volume, high cost, and zero return.
Broth
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but what if some niche still has legit journalists who actually care? back in the day, you could pick up a few good placements with enough hustle, even in the spammy era. maybe the game shifted, but i wonder if there's still some corners where quality outreach can still squeeze through the noise. always been about knowing where to look, not just throwing spaghetti at the wall.
Mirage
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Har o connect's a mess but the thing is sometimes the data is wonky at first. I've seen some accounts with off results early but then it stabilizes. The key is testing creative, not obsessing over the initial cr. CPCs fluctuate but if your CTR and CVR are solid you can still pull decent CPA. Don't write it off just yet, but yeah, it takes patience to see if the data stabilizes.
Basecamp
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Look, this haro connect thing's a waste of time if you ask me. Data's all over the place and the results are usually crap at first. You're better off focusing on a solid LP and banging traffic through it. Don't get sidetracked by the shiny tool, just crank the traffic and see what sticks. If you're waiting for it to stabilize, you're already behind.
haro connect? nah, i think you're underestimating the long game. yeah, early data's wonky but if you run enough tests and optimize, it can be a goldmine. just gotta have the patience and not bail after the first crappy week. trust me, the numbers will show if you keep grinding.
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