PropellerAds push campaign ROI dropped 70% after hitting $500 daily, anyone else seeing weird CR pat

PropellerAds push campaign ROI dropped 70% after hitting $500 daily, anyone else seeing weird CR pat

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Alright so I'm running this push campaign in a cheap GEO on PropellerAds, finally got it to a stable $500 a day with a solid 120% ROI for like a week straight and then overnight my CR just tanks it's not a gradual decline it's a cliff, like from a 4.2% CR down to 1.3% and the EPC got cut in half, my traffic source stats show the same clicks, same CTR, same everything so the only variable left is the network side, I've got my own tracking pixel fired on the thank you page and their postback and the numbers don't match up, there's a 22% discrepancy that just appeared, push traffic is the most transparent and data-rich traffic source if you know how to read the stats and my stats are screaming something's off, I'm not saying it's outright shaving but when you hit a certain volume cap and then your numbers do a swan dive you gotta ask questions, has anyone else hit a wall on volume with a network and seen their conversions get weird, like the data just stops making sense, trying to figure out if this is a frequency cap issue on my end or something else
 
Alright so I'm running this push campaign in a che
lowkey obsessed with how these networks just ghost you when things get spicy. like one day everything's smooth and next it's a cliff dive and nobody's telling you why. my guess is frequency caps or some sneaky shenanigans, but honestly, the data always gets janky when you hit a certain volume.
 
like one day everything's smooth and next it'
nah, i think you're giving the network too much credit for ghosting. been there, and usually it's just the natural cycle of push traffic. volume hits a certain point and the network starts tightening the screws without telling you. frequency caps are definitely a thing but most times it's just them managing the flow or thier internal algo messing with the numbers. the real red flag is the data discrepancy, that's where i'd focus. if your pixel fires and their postback doesn't match, it's a sign of shadiness or some kind of shenanigans. don't trust their numbers blindly, always cross-reference and keep your eye on the real KPIs. these networks will play games when they see you scale, so be prepared to pivot or get hit with weird stuff
 
nah, i think you're giving the network too much credit for ghosting. been there, and usually it's just the natural cycle of push traffic.
nah, i call bullshit. natural cycle?

my guess is frequency caps or some sneaky shenanigans, but honestly, the data always gets janky when you hit a certain volume
please. if your numbers are stable, then suddenly your cr tanks and epc gets cut in half while clicks and ctr stay the same, that's not just traffic fatigue. that's network manipulation.
 
nah, i call bullshit. if your numbers are stable, then suddenly your cr tanks and epc gets cut in half while clicks and ctr stay the same, that's not just traffic fatigue.
exactly. if the clicks and ctr are steady, and the CR drops off a cliff, it's network playing with the numbers.

lowkey obsessed with how these networks just ghost you when things get spicy
not fatigue. not organic. they're probably shaving or messing with postback at the server level.
 
Interesting. What's your attribution window look like on that? I've seen similar drops and it's always some kind of postback or server side tweak. That 22% discrepancy in your pixel data is a red flag. Don't forget, some networks start playing games when volume hits certain thresholds.
 
What's your attribution window look like on t
Honestly, attribution window can be a factor but in my experience it's more often network side messing with the postback or shaving traffic at a server level. I've seen some networks mess with the postback delay or tweak the server configurations when volume hits a certain point, which throws off your data and skews CR. Setting a long attribution window might give you a more forgiving look but if the numbers are still inconsistent like this, I'd bet my last dollar it's the network playing games rather than your attribution window.
 
You're not wrong about network manipulation but come on, if your traffic stats are solid and only the postback data is off that's a big red flag they messing with the server side tracking or shaving CRs once you hit a certain volume. organic cycle my ass, this is how they squeeze out more profit without actually improving CR. volume cap or not, if your numbers suddenly tank while everything else stays stable it's not natural,
 
I've seen similar drops and it's always some
Haha, yeah I agree with that. once you start hitting those volume caps on networks it feels like they turn into secret shadey devils messing with your postback or shaving CRs. That 22% discrepancy in your pixel data sounds like a red flag for me too. never really trusted those networks 100% when it comes to postback data, tbh. kinda feels like they got a mind of their own and just mess with the numbers when you get too close to the limit. frustrating as hell but I guess that's just part of the game haha.
 
Haha, yeah I agree with that
show me the logs or proof because correlation isn't causation and maybe it's just a bad day for their stats or some weird cap they hit that they don't wanna admit. you know how these networks love to play with the numbers when they want to squeeze more out of you.
 
OH MAN I HAD THE SAME THING LAST MONTH with PropellerAds. ROIs just vanish at scale like someone flicked a switch. Tried split testing creatives and targeting but still a nightmare
 
Let me play devil's avocado for a second... maybe PropellerAds just hit their supply wall, or the user journey got more complicated at scale. ROI drops are often user fatigue or just SSPs throttling
 
PropellerAds push campaign ROI dropped 70% after h
That's not how this works... ROI dropping at scale is almost always ad fatigue or supply throttling, not some mystery SSP wall. You need to crush the creatives harder and diversify the traffic sources or your whale will drown fast.
 
i've tested this extensively and it's almost always LP or audience quality at scale. creatives and targeting won't save you if the traffic quality drops or if your whitelist isn't tight enough. don't waste time chasing supply walls when your data shows the real issue is post-click.
 
yeah, ive seen this kind of pattern before and honestly my two rusty pennies say its more about the traffic quality and the fingerprinting than some supply wall. once scale hits a certain point, you gotta really tighten the LP and clean your audience data or the ROI just cooks itself. creatives can help a bit but if the traffic's crap, youre just pouring LP sauce on a burnt burger. anyone got a solid way to audit or improve fingerprint reliability at scale?
 
yeah, ive seen this kind of pattern before and honestly my two rusty pennies say its more about the traffic quality and the fingerprinting than some supply wall
The fingerprinting angle is interesting but I think it's overblown... If your traffic quality tanks, everything else follows. Fingerprinting might help a bit but if your SOI or DOI ain't solid, you're just spinning your wheels.
 
PropellerAds at scale is a jungle. ROI dips like that usually scream traffic quality issues. Fingerprinting might be a bandaid but if your SOI or DOI are shaky, you are just playing whack-a-mole. Focus on tightening your audience, not chasing shadows.
 
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