interesting thread... I've been watching this space closely, and honestly, I am torn. The usual suspects claim pop and redirect traffic are relics, dead as a doornail but then again, I keep seeing some weirdly consistent conversions from them. So I thought I'd ask, who's still running them and actually making money or is it just a nostalgia trip for us old-timers? Context-wise, I've been around long enough to see pop traffic rise, fall, and then shuffle into some obscure corner of the internet, only to pop up again when everyone least expects. Sure, the ad platforms have wised up, tighter restrictions, better fraud detection, etc. but the basic premise, redirecting a user to a landing page after a quick detour, still kinda works if you know how to play it. Maybe it's just a matter of doing it more covertly, or maybe I am missing some secret sauce. In my humble experience, if you can keep the volume high enough without raising red flags, it still pulls decent LTV for certain niches. The problem is, tracking gets harder, and attribution gets messier. So the question remains dead or still alive? some fresh war stories or horror stories from those brave enough to keep the old horse running.