Hey everyone, need a quick read on this. Been running a few PBNs just to see if they still hold any water. My last network from 2022-23 was doing okay, but I noticed a few sites got sandboxed or dropped from index in the past 6 months. Still, I see some folks claiming they get consistent rankings with PBNs even now. Curious if anyone here is actually using PBNs in 2025 and still getting results or if it's just too risky with Google's new AI detection tools? I'm talking about actual numbers - like, I built a PBN in Q1 this year, and after 3 months, my client's site jumped 7 spots for a competitive keyword. But then I also had a network that got deindexed after 2 months. Trying to weigh if it's worth the risk anymore or if I should switch to more white hat tactics. Would love some quick real-world data or recent experiences