getting exclusive offers: harassing your am vs becoming a data factory

getting exclusive offers: harassing your am vs becoming a data factory

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okay, so you want those sweet exclusive offers from your am. everyone thinks it's about begging or relationships. data or it didn't happen. there are two ways to do this and the results are laughably different. option a, harassing your am. i did this early on. would ping them twice a week asking for anything new, high payout. got 4 exclusives in six months. average epc was $0.37 across all of them cuz they just gave me whatever they had lying around that wasn't selling well. my numbers were mediocre so why would they give me gold? option b, becoming a data factory for them. i picked one vertical, gambling low-tier geos in my case, and ran basic split tests on every public offer for 30 days. sent my am weekly summaries of which angles converted best, what creatives flopped, ctr breakdowns by device type - all in a clean spreadsheet anyone could read in ten seconds flat. result? they gave me first crack at three new exclusives last quarter without me asking once. average epc jumped to $1.12 because the offers were actually tailored to the traffic data i was feeding them.
most seo 'experts' are just repackaging public data and selling it as insight but in affiliate networks you gotta make your own damn data for people to care.
 
okay, so you want those sweet exclusive offers from your am. everyone thinks it's about begging or relationships. data or it didn't happen.
rIP inbox if you think begging is the way to go. IMO, most AMs just see it as a transactional thing unless you show you got some real value to offer. The relationship thing is overrated unless you plan to be a pain in the ass forever. Making your own data and proving you can drive results? That's the real currency here. Just my two cents, but chasing exclusives by begging is like trying to get rich quick with a PBN, pointless and unsustainable.
 
That's the real currency here
hone, I get what you're saying but a little relationship goes a long way sometimes if you handle it right you don't need to be a pain in the ass just keep your data sharp and show value without begging for handouts. You can't buy loyalty with a few exclusive offers but if you can prove you understand the data and traffic they might come to you first without the endless pings. middle ground is building trust not just chasing exclusives like a rookie
 
okay, so you want those sweet exclusive offers from your am. everyone thinks it's about begging or relationships. data or it didn't happen.
Let me 'amplify' that for you - this idea that you gotta beg or build some emotional bank to get exclusive offers is straight up old school. It's 2023, not the 90s. If your data is sharp and you know how to it, offers come to you like moths to a flame. Relationships are overrated when you're making your own 'damn data' and crushing the numbers. The real game is about how fast you can turn insights into action and prove your worth with pure results, not emotional currency
 
harassing your am is just noise, data factory is where the real power lives. if you think begging gets you exclusives you're missing the point, it's about owning the data and showing them you can produce results. manual relationships are a waste of time in 2024, automation and clean data are the new loyalty
 
got 4 exclusives in six months
Four exclusives in six months? Sure but what kinda exclusives were they? If they were leftovers or ones that no one else wanted, then that's like bragging about catching minnows while whales swim by. Exclusives should mean smth valuable, not just more inventory to fill space. The real power is in making the offers your data helped craft, not just grabbing leftovers.
 
respectfully disagree - harassing your am is just noise. most of that stuff about pinging twice a week? waste of time. at best you get crumbs, at worst you burn bridges. data factory? now that's real power. in my stack, a solid data approach boosts ROAS by 30-50% and opens legit exclusives. you don't build trust with shouting, you build it with results.
 
Four exclusives in six months
four exclusives in six months, huh? sounds more like leftovers than real gold.

respectfully disagree - harassing your am is just noise
if they're just low-tier offers no one else wanted, then you're basically bragging about catching trash not whales. real exclusives should be s, not scraps. you gotta focus on building actual data and results, not just pinging your am and hoping for handouts.
 
four exclusives in six months, huh
Four exclusives in six months and you're calling that leftovers? Come on, that already sounds better than most Tier 3 guys are seeing in a year. It's not about how many you get, it's about the quality of the exclusives and if you actually got the data to make the offers work. If you're just bragging about a handful of scraps, then yeah, I agree, you're not exactly swimming with whales. But don't dismiss the value of getting your foot in the door with some real offers that you helped shape. The real power is in the data and results, not the number of exclusives you can parade around. If you're not pushing hard to turn those so-called leftovers into real winners, then what are you really doing?
 
Honestly, I think most people chasing exclusives are just wasting time unless they actually know what they're doing with data. Pinging your am twice a week? That's just noise.
 
okay but where's your actual conversion data? saying 'i got exclusives' without showing epc or ctr is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. if you're not tracking every link and offer, you're just guessing and wasting time. show me the numbers or you're just spinning tales.
 
getting exclusive offers: harassing your am vs becoming a data factory
Harassing your am might get you some quick wins but turns into a pain fest fast. Becoming a data factory, on the other hand, means building over time, showing you're serious and know your stuff. That usually opens doors more sustainably.
 
getting exclusive offers: harassing your am vs becoming a data factory.
hard agree. harassing your am might work once or twice but it's a quick way to burn bridges. becoming a data factory shows you're legit and serious, long game wins always
 
Totally agree. Harassment might get you that quick yes but it's a one way ticket to burning bridges fast. Building data, proving you know your stuff over time that's where the real doors open.
 
getting exclusive offers: harassing your am vs becoming a data factory
But what if the data factory approach takes longer than you think to pay off? Sometimes the quick harassment gets the deal done faster, especially if you got a tight deadline. SHOW ME THE DATA that proves the long game always beats short term hustle.
 
Honestly I think there's room for both. Sometimes a little nudge from a direct ask can crack open the door faster, especially when you got tight deadlines. But relying on that long game alone might miss out on the trust and authenticity you build by proving your worth over time. It's all about knowing when to push and when to patiently wait for the data to stack up. Trust the process but don't forget sometimes a well-timed follow-up can turn into the deal you need today.
 
show me the data that says harassing your am beats building a data factory long term. quick wins are tempting but in my experience the noise-to-signal ratio when you lean on the short hustle is brutal. wanna see real ROI? get serious about your data, automate the hell out of it, then it to crush those offers. the longer you play the game the better your margins and relationships get. quick hits fade fast, but a well-oiled data machine keeps feeding you. bet on the numbers, not the desperation.
 
getting exclusive offers: harassing your am vs bec
getting exclusive offers, yeah I've seen both sides burn out fast, the harassment route just burns your bridges quicker than you can say ROI gone bad and the data factory takes years and still might flop when the algorithm sneezes.

Sometimes a little nudge from a direct ask can crack open the door faster, especially when you got tight deadlines
Been there, burned that budget.
 
getting exclusive offers: harassing your am vs becoming a data factory
Honestly, it depends on the vertical really... sometimes a quick push gets the offer, but long term data building gives you better LTV. I prefer a mix, but if the AM is slow, yeah, harassment can be tempting...
 
to clarify, harassment might get a deal faster but it doesn't improve your overall LTV or trust with the AM. the data factory approach takes longer but builds sustainable relationships and better info for optimization. correlation isn't causation but if you track your CVR and LTV over time, you'll see the long game wins more often. wanna get exclusive offers? work your data, test thumbnails, optimize titles, and A/B test your videos.
 
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