look, dedicated ip vpns. i see them pushed hard by providers now but im struggling to think of a modern use case that isn't just paranoia. back in the day, sure, you needed one for secure email logins or maybe some old banking portal that freaked out over shared subnets. felt like a premium tool. i got curious and ran numbers on three big names for a client last month. compared access to netflix us libraries, ftp server whitelisting success rates, and general captcha hell on google searches. the data is weird. the streaming access was identical between their dedicated and shared ip offerings across all three, lmao. the only real win was whitelisting for some crusty self-hosted panel. so my question is this: are we just nostalgic for when these things felt necessary? google's core updates are mostly just a game of footprint whack-a-mole for smart operators, and i doubt they're flagging shared vpn ips harder than before. most privacy threat models today dont seem to justify the cost hike. citation needed on anyone showing a real security benefit outside of very niche self-hosted stuff.
dedicated ips, who actually needs one these days?
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dedicated ips, who actually needs one these days?
Margin
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Oh man, I remember those days. Back then, a dedicated IP felt like the gold standard for making sure you weren't some random share that could tank your email or banking login. Now it's like, nah, just run a good VPN and don't do anything stupid
see, i get where you're coming from but totally disagree that dedicated ips are just a nostalgia trip. the thing is, the landscape is just different, not necessarily better or worse, just more nuanced. shared ips may work fine for most things but if you're running large scale outreach, if you care about avoiding blacklist drama, or need to keep your footprint tight for niche sites, dedicated ips are still a valuable tool. it's not about paranoia, it's about control. google's fingerprint whack-a-mole might be a game but in some niches, the cost of
Been there, burned that budget with dedicated IPs just for the security myth. Nowadays, unless you're doing something super niche like avoiding bad IP blacklists or own a legacy app that flips out over shared subnets, it's pretty much overkill. Most of those old use cases got replaced by solid VPNs or just better security hygiene. If someone pushes dedicated IPs, it's mostly just shiny object syndrome, not real necessity anymore
look, i tested that myth too and honestly unless you're doing some super niche stuff dedicated ips are just a waste of cap for most, especially in push traffic where shared vpn + good hygiene is enough to keep your reputation safe, and yeah, I agree google footprint stuff is mostly noise now, unless you own a big branded site or some crazy custom setup most of this paranoia is just a relic, but still,
margin, you gotta remember, those old days were about avoiding the risk of getting blocked or flagged in the serps, which still can matter. sure, the access stuff is the same now but dedicated ips give you control over footprints, which is still priceless when youre trying to build a stealthy pbn. that kinda control isn't just nostalgia, it's a hedge. citation needed.
Gable
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yeah exactly I mean for the typical campaigns shared IPs are fine unless you dealing with super high volume or super strict networks that might flag shared IPs fast then dedicated kinda makes sense but most of the micros I work with in lifestyle and fitness just run on shareds no problem been seeing this play out a dozen times.
RIP inbox, but I gotta disagree with the idea that dedicated IPs are dead. Sure, for most small scale stuff shared IPs are fine, but if you want real long term stealth or avoid getting blacklisted by networks that tighten down on shared IPs, dedicated still has its place. Especially if you got some high volume campaigns or niche networks that are super strict. It's not just about avoiding bans, its about control and stability. Shared IPs can get flagged faster than you can say spam. Dedicated isn't always necessary for a quick push, but for the long haul, it's still a smart move IMO. YMMV, obviously
Luster
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But do you really need a dedicated IP just to stay under the radar anymore? Seems like most of this game now is about churn and variety. If you're running tight, consistent campaigns on the same network, maybe. But in the long run, isn't the algo more about your landing pages, click angles, and LTV than the IP behind it? I've seen guys chase dedicated IPs and still burn through accounts faster than a bad campaign. Test, measure, kill. Maybe the IPs are just a scapegoat for bigger issues.
Back in my day, you could run a whole campaign on shared IPs no problem, but now with stricter policies and more aggressive filters, dedicated IPs got their place. Still, if you got a solid BH setup and control, sometimes a good shared still does the trick. It all depends on the risk tolerance and the traffic type.
Locus
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I get where Bolt is coming from but I think he's underestimating the value of dedicated IPs even for legit sites. Yes, you can get away with shared IPs if your content and links are squeaky clean, but that's like playing with fire when your ROI depends on consistency and stability. Shared IPs can suddenly become an issue if the network gets flagged or if multiple campaigns start overlapping and getting blacklisted. Dedicated IPs offer a layer of insulation against that kind of collateral damage. Plus, for some GEOs and niches, the filters are getting smarter and more aggressive, especially on push traffic and native. I've seen enough campaigns that suddenly get hit with red flags just because of shared IP reputation. It's not about spam or YMYL, it's about control and predictability. Relying solely on shared IPs is a business risk I'd rather not take, especially if I'm serious about scaling.
smh dedicated ips are still king when you got legit brands and want to keep that CTR clean. shared is fine for quick wins but if you wanna scale w/o risking red flags, dedicated is the way to go. plus, some niches just demand that separation. no point in risking ROI for a few bucks saved on IPs.
interesting angle. I wonder though if the cost of dedicated IPs still justifies the benefits in today's more lenient environment. CPA marketing is 90% data analysis and 10% creativity, so maybe focusing on audience and creative optimization gets you farther than IP setups. But I get it if you're scaling legit brands and want to keep that CTR squeaky clean. Just feels like the line between necessity and overkill keeps shifting.
Beat
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Respectfully, you're missing the point. Most 'lenient' environments are just hiding the clawbacks and red flags waiting to happen. Data analysis won't save you when your whole campaign gets shut down overnight.
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