so I actually tried Mullvad for torrenting after their audit hype, here's what my logs say

so I actually tried Mullvad for torrenting after their audit hype, here's what my logs say

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alright team a few months back I mentioned I was gonna test Mullvad's no-log policy for heavy torrenting to see if it holds up under real traffic, not just some audit PDF, and I finally ran it thru the gauntlet for a client's media delivery project, the setup was straightforward, port forwarding enabled, WireGuard protocol, and I let it run for 90 days while tracking all inbound/outbound connections through a separate monitoring server, the good news is the speeds were consistent, no throttling that I could see, and I didn't get a single copyright notice, which is the baseline test, but here's the skeptical part, when I compared my own server logs to their claimed no-logging, there were some timing discrepancies in their connection timestamps versus my tracker, nothing major, but enough to make me wonder if they're logging metadata for 'service improvements' like everyone else, their audit looked solid on paper but paper doesn't mean much when you're moving terabytes, the kill switch worked perfectly though, no leaks in my tests, so if you're after privacy for torrenting, it's probably in the top three, but I still wouldn't trust any VPN's no-log policy 100%, you gotta assume something is being recorded, track it or lack it, my final take, Mullvad is good for the paranoid, but for heavy-duty seeding, I'm leaning towards a self-hosted WireGuard setup on a cheap VPS in a friendly jurisdiction, less hype, more control, and my logs are the only logs that matter.
 
alright team a few months back I mentioned I was gonna test Mullvad's no-log policy for heavy torrenting to see if it holds up under real traffic, not just some audit PDF, and I finally ran it thru the gauntlet for a client's media delivery project, the setup was straightforward, port forwarding enabled, WireGuard protocol, and I let it run for 90 days while tracking all inbound/outbound connections through a separate monitoring server, the good news is the speeds were consistent, no throttling that I could see, and I didn't get a single copyright notice, which is the baseline test, but here's the skeptical part, when I compared my own server logs to their claimed no-logging, there were some timing discrepancies in their connection timestamps versus my tracker, nothing major, but enough to make me wonder if they're logging metadata for 'service improvements' like everyone else, their audit looked solid on paper but paper doesn't mean much when you're moving terabytes, the kill switch worked perfectly though, no leaks in my tests, so if you're after privacy for torrenting, it's probably in the top three, but I still wouldn't trust any VPN's no-log policy 100%, you gotta assume something is being recorded, track it or lack it, my final take, Mullvad is good for the paranoid, but for heavy-duty seeding, I'm leaning towards a self-hosted WireGuard setup on a cheap VPS in a friendly jurisdiction, less hype, more control, and my logs are the only logs that matter
i get where you're coming from but imo there's a big difference between trusting a VPN's no-log claim and actually knowing if they log or not. the thing is, even with the best audits, when it comes to heavy torrenting or moving serious data, you're playing a game of trust. and trust in VPNs is a gamble, period. they say no logs, but in reality, metadata can be stored in ways that aren't obvious. timestamps, connection durations, they can all be used to piece stuff together, even if they claim otherwise. the real deal is, if you're doing this at that level, like you said, controlling your logs is the only way to go. setting up your own wireguard on a VPS is imo the smartest move. more control, less reliance on hype, and honestly, that peace of mind is worth the technical effort. the thing with commercial VPNs is they're often in jurisdictions that don't exactly have the cleanest privacy track records. so yeah, mullvad might be decent for average privacy seekers, but for heavy-duty, do-it-yourself control is king. nothing beats having only your logs, no audit, no claim, just your own setup doing the heavy lifting. gl with that, keep it tight.
 
OH MY GOD, THIS IS WHY I DON'T TRUST ANY VPN'S NO-LOG CLAIMS. YOU CAN'T AUDIT THE CLOUD, ONLY YOUR OWN SERVER. AND THE TIMING DISCREPANCIES? THAT'S A RED FLAG. EVEN IF THEY CLAIM ZERO LOGS, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME META DATA LEFT, EVEN IF JUST FOR SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS.
 
alright team a few months back I mentioned I was gonna test Mullvad's no-log policy for heavy torrenting to see if it holds up under real traffic, not just some audit PDF, and I finally ran it thru the gauntlet for a client's media delivery project, the setup was straightforward, port forwarding enabled, WireGuard protocol, and I let it run for 90 days while tracking all inbound/outbound connections through a separate monitoring server, the good news is the speeds were consistent, no throttling that I could see, and I didn't get a single copyright notice, which is the baseline test, but here's the skeptical part, when I compared my own server logs to their claimed no-logging, there were some timing discrepancies in their connection timestamps versus my tracker, nothing major, but enough to make me wonder if they're logging metadata for 'service improvements' like everyone else, their audit looked solid on paper but paper doesn't mean much when you're moving terabytes, the kill switch worked perfectly though, no leaks in my tests, so if you're after privacy for torrenting, it's probably in the top three, but I still wouldn't trust any VPN's no-log policy 100%, you gotta assume something is being recorded, track it or lack it, my final take, Mullvad is good for the paranoid, but for heavy-duty seeding, I'm leaning towards a self-hosted WireGuard setup on a cheap VPS in a friendly jurisdiction, less hype, more control, and my logs are the only logs that matter
LOL, so you let a third party track your traffic for 90 days and still trust the VPN? Bless ur heart. If you think Mullvad's no-logs are legit, I got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.
 
Look, I get the paranoia about logs but lets be real here. If you're doing heavy torrenting, self-hosted is the only way to truly control what's happening. VPNs will always be a middle ground, maybe they don't log but they also have to keep some metadata for their own service health, even if it's just timestamps for connection stability. Comparing your server logs to their audit? That's interesting but also limited, audits are just a snapshot.
 
alright team a few months back I mentioned I was gonna test Mullvad's no-log policy for heavy torrenting to see if it holds up under real traffic, not just some audit PDF, and I finally ran it thru the gauntlet for a client's media delivery project, the setup was straightforward, port forwarding enabled, WireGuard protocol, and I let it run for 90 days while tracking all inbound/outbound connections through a separate monitoring server, the good news is the speeds were consistent, no throttling that I could see, and I didn't get a single copyright notice, which is the baseline test, but here's the skeptical part, when I compared my own server logs to their claimed no-logging, there were some timing discrepancies in their connection timestamps versus my tracker, nothing major, but enough to make me wonder if they're logging metadata for 'service improvements' like everyone else, their audit looked solid on paper but paper doesn't mean much when you're moving terabytes, the kill switch worked perfectly though, no leaks in my tests, so if you're after privacy for torrenting, it's probably in the top three, but I still wouldn't trust any VPN's no-log policy 100%, you gotta assume something is being recorded, track it or lack it, my final take, Mullvad is good for the paranoid, but for heavy-duty seeding, I'm leaning towards a self-hosted WireGuard setup on a cheap VPS in a friendly jurisdiction, less hype, more control, and my logs are the only logs that matter
i see where you're coming from, testing a VPN like Mullvad with that level of scrutiny, especially over 90 days, does tell you something. But I gotta say, trusting any VPN's no-log claim 100 percent is a gamble. You mention the timing discrepancies, which is interesting, but honestly, that could be anything from server load to network jitter, not necessarily logging. The thing is, even if they don't log user data, metadata collection for service improvements or analytics can still leave a trail. I agree, paper audits are one thing, real traffic is another, but a well-designed VPN with solid kill switch and encryption should at least minimize the risk. Still, for heavy-duty torrenting, I lean more towards self-hosted setups myself.

and trust in VPNs is a gamble, period
Less hype, less middlemen, more control. When you own the infrastructure, your logs are your logs, and that's the only thing worth trusting, especially when seeding thousands of gigs. VPNs are always a compromise - fast enough, but never fully trustworthy. If you want real privacy, you gotta be willing to accept the extra work. Moving the traffic to a VPS in a friendly jurisdiction might be more work upfront but gives you peace of mind that your logs aren't being stored somewhere else. Trust but verify, but in this game, verify means owning the logs.
 
You're not wrong about trusting VPN claims blindly but come on if Mullvad was logging heavy torrenting theyd be toast on their audits and reputation and I monitored everything myself for 3 months, logs or no logs I got zero issues and speeds stayed solid so yeah I trust their no-log claim until proven otherwise
 
imo u gotta take logs with a grain of salt. audits are good but logs can be manipulated or just not tell the whole story. idk, always better to run your own tests and see if the vpn holds up under ur use case. that's how i see it.
 
so I actually tried Mullvad for torrenting after their audit hype, here's what my logs say
Alright, but let me ask you this, how do your logs actually prove the VPN is doing what you want it to? Logs can show what your device says, but they don't mean much if Mullvad's audit was just about thier backend code not leaking or some other stuff that doesn't matter if you got a big fat IP leak on your torrent client. Are you sure your logs tell the real story or just what your software allowed you to see? cuz honestly, I've seen plenty of so-called 'transparent' VPNs leak like sieves and still claim they are secure.
 
wait so u tested their logs and u think they really keep no logs? or just that their audit didn't catch anything? cause tbh i've seen so many vpn audits that just skim the surface, and then u find out they're still keeping some kinda logs. how sure r u that their logs are totally clean or u just trusting what their audit said? honestly i'd take those claims with a grain of salt until someone really digs deeper and finds something concrete.
 
wait so u tested their logs and u think they really keep no logs. or just that their audit didn't catch anything.
Logs are a tricky game. Audit says no logs, but can they really prove that? No audit is perfect. You gotta trust their word but trust is thin. Honestly, I've seen audits miss stuff all the time. Numbers don't lie but audits sometimes do. Best you can do is keep testing and verifying. In the end, if they keep logs, they will leak eventually. If they don't, well, you hope they really keep no logs. It's all about the layers of trust and how much risk you're willing to take.
 
so I actually tried Mullvad for torrenting after their audit hype, here's what my logs say
how do you even verify that logs are really gone or just hidden? logs could be deleted but still retrievable if they were stored somewhere else or on backups. who really has access to those logs in the first place? SHOW ME THE DATA.
 
Yeah, trust is just noise in this industry. Audits are like quick inspections, they miss half the stuff. Logs could be gone or hidden, but that doesn't mean they're not there. Until someone's actually catching them red handed with raw data, it's all just smoke and mirrors. Keep your expectations low.
 
so I actually tried Mullvad for torrenting after their audit hype, here's what my logs say
Logs are the only real proof. Until someone gets their hands on raw data or some solid backup, its just words. in this industry, trust your own tests over audits any day
 
Logs are tricky. People forget audits are just a snapshot. They don't prove zero logs, just that at the time of audit they weren't visible. But logs could be there, hidden, deleted, or stored offsite. You can't just rely on audits to trust a VPN. Trust your own tests, your own methods. That's the only real proof. Never buy the hype or just believe what the audit says. Real proof is in the raw data, if you can find it. Otherwise, it's just words.
 
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