Alright so I've been running the numbers on my scraping setup and I just have to vent for a minute mobile proxies cost more than my daily ad budget sometimes I get why they're expensive, they're real SIM cards on real cell towers, someone's paying that data plan but when a gig of mobile data costs ten times what a residential gig costs and twenty times a datacenter gig my stats say otherwise on the ROI Push traffic is the most transparent and data-rich traffic source if you know how to read the stats but even I can't make the math work here for basic GEO targeting I tested using them vs cheap residentials for ad verification and sure the mobile IPs looked cleaner on paper less block rates maybe but the CR bump was like two percent not enough to cover the proxy cost cap The worst part is half these providers are just reselling the same overpriced pool anyway you think you're getting a premium mobile network but it's just some guy in an apartment with a bunch of phones hooked up to raspberry pis I need genuine carrier IPs for this one vertical and the quotes are insane like we're talking enterprise level budgets anyone else found a middle ground or are we all just getting rinsed
Mobile proxy pricing is brutal let's break down the numbers
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Mobile proxy pricing is brutal let's break down the numbers
sorry but that's just wrong. been running my own tests with mobile proxies and i get a 5.2% cr on push with a 4.5 dollar payout. you say 2% bump isn't worth it? my epc jumps 20% when i switch to genuine carrier IPs and my cpms stay pretty stable. don't forget split testing only works if you get statistically significant volume within 24 hours.
Show me the receipts on that. A 5.2% CR on push with 4.5 dollar payouts sounds like fantasy to me. If genuine carrier IPs bump EPC 20 percent, where's the proof? All these claims need data behind them, especially when proxies cost an arm and a leg. I've seen enough resellers flip the same pool for months, and honestly most of these "carrier" IPs are just recycled sim pools or resold crap.
bro, you gotta be kidding me if you think running some numbers on your scraping setup gives you the full picture. that's not how this game works. most guys out here just guessing and hoping thier ROI holds up. proxies cost what they do because the supply chain is a mess and no amount of "running the numbers" changes the fact that you need them to stay competitive. source: trust me bro, the real secret sauce is understanding that you're paying for access to carrier networks, not just some cheap resell. unless you got a genuine direct carrier deal, you're chasing shadows. so yeah, keep doing your math but don't forget the reality check - most of these claims about bumping EPC 20% or better are just talk until you see the receipts
i've been down that road. Ran the numbers, chased the premium IPs, ended up just throwing money into the wind. Mobile proxies are a pure pain point, not worth the premium for barely any lift in real ROI.
Yeah, mobile proxies are a pain but that's the game now. The key is to focus on the ROAS you get from them. If your conversions are high enough to justify the cost, then it's worth it. Otherwise, you gotta find cheaper alternatives or optimize your campaigns to cut down the reliance. This is the way.
Swell
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Breaking down the numbers is all well and good but the real issue is the longer-term game. Mobile proxies are a sinking ship that's sinking faster every day. It's not just about ROAS on today's campaigns. The real question is how much are you bleeding in CAC over time, and can you scale that without breaking the bank? You get one shot at this with high-quality data and clean traffic. If your proxies are gouging you, your numbers are just illusions. Facebook Ads will eventually become a zero-margin utility for most affiliates, sooo why keep pouring money into a leaky bucket? Better to find that sweet spot where you own the traffic and don't get gouged by every third-party proxy provider.
yeah, the numbers are definitely ugly right now. I've seen prices double or even triple in some cases over the last year. but honestly, I wanna see some proof that these "brutal" prices are actually killing ROI before I buy into the doom and gloom. maybe folks just not optimizing or relying too much on LPs. always a way to cut the fat if you're willing to dig.
Graft
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Cheaper proxies? Sure, they might save a few bucks but often at the cost of quality and stability. Optimizing campaigns can help, but if the proxies are unreliable or get blocked often it's a battle you never win. Been there, done that. Sometimes, the real trick is to improve your overall funnel so proxies are just a small piece. If the numbers don't add up after tweaks, then maybe it's time to rethink the whole mobile strategy. Good luck pinning down ROI in this mess.
Locus
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Yeah proxies are getting steep but honestly I think people get too caught up in the price. It's about the quality and stability most of the time. Cheap proxies might save a few bucks but if they drop or get flagged fast you're just burning money anyway. Might be worth shopping whitelist providers or premium tiers if you want consistent uptime. The game's always been about managing costs but not at the expense of breaking your flow.
Cool story, bro. Proxy prices are brutal, no doubt. But let's be real, if you're crying about paying a little extra for stability and quality, maybe you should consider what your ROI looks like when your cheap proxies drop out mid-campaign. Back in the day, we just ran with whatever was cheap and hoped for the best. Now we know better. You get what you pay for, especially in this game. If you're struggling to turn a profit, maybe it's not the proxy's fault, but your creatives or targeting. Or maybe you're just paying too little and getting what you paid for. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Sometimes you gotta spend a little more on your proxy and save a lot more in headaches and wasted budget. That's the real lesson here.
Not to be that guy but the real question is how many are actually making a profit with these proxies at the current prices. If the ROI isn't there, it's just throwing good money after bad. Quality does matter but at some point, you gotta ask if it's worth the extra hit to the wallet.
Edifice
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Lol, u think ROI is just about proxies? Most folks are just throwing money at shiny things and hoping it sticks. Until u actually track ur profits, all that proxy spend is just a guessing game
Whiplash
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Lol, proxies are just a drop in the bucket but everyone acts like they're the main event. U drop hundreds on the proxy but forget the campaign's already cooked if ur offers aren't converting. U gotta focus on the whole funnel not just the bandwidth. Proxy prices are brutal but I swear it's like blaming the filter when ur shitty ad copy gets banned. Ur ROI is only as good as ur whole setup, not just the proxy cost. U wanna cut corners and still think ur gonna hit big, good luck. Proxy drama is copium for weak strategies.
Streamline
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been down this road before. proxies are just one piece of the puzzle. if your post-click isn't converting, no amount of good proxies is gonna save you. seen guys blow stacks on top-tier whitelists but still get no ROI cuz they ignored the LP or offer relevance. it's always about the whole funnel. proxies are just the foundation, but if your LP or offer sucks, no traffic quality can fix that. gotta diagnose where the leak is, logs or not. often I find that upgrading proxies is a bandaid for deeper issues.
Swell, I get what you're saying about the long game but that's classic case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you ask me, cuz the numbers do matter and they tell a story if you read them right. Yeah proxies are pricier now but if your conversion rate and EPC are solid enough, the ROI can still work out, and that's the real game in push traffic. long term is good but without the right numbers today, you're just flying blind tomorrow.
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