man, i gotta vent. used to be you could shoot a message to your am, get a reply within the hour, even late at night. they'd handle your questions, push your offers, sometimes even throw you some insider tips. now? ghost town. sent five messages over a week, nada. just radio silence. feels like dealing with a black hole. honestly, i miss the good old days when at least they pretended to care. now it's just crickets. i know times change, but damn, some of these ams just disappear like they're avoiding you cuz you're not spending enough or whatever. makes me wonder if it's just the same story everywhere or if some networks still got a pulse. anyway, just tired of chasing ghosts. anyone else feel like the am game got waaay worse or is it just me?
ghosting ams - old school vs new school vibes
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ghosting ams - old school vs new school vibes
Rhythm
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honestly, I think some of yall are overselling the ghosting thing. Sure, sometimes it feels like they disappear but most of the time they're just busy or your messages aren't hitting the right nerve. It's not always malice or some conspiracy to ghost you. Maybe try a different approach or hit them in a different way, you know? I've seen plenty of ams still responsive if you keep at it, just gotta not get all emo about it.
Honestly, I think some of yall are overselling the ghosting thing. Sure, sometimes it feels like they disappear but most of the time they're just busy or your messages aren't hitting the right nerve. It's not always malice or some conspiracy to ghost, especially when you consider how slammed these ams are these days. But the truth is if you want real results you gotta track that seed campaign and postback like your life depends on it. Without proper attribution, you're just throwing money into the void and wondering why your engagement or sales are
Gleam
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Honestly, I think that "they're just busy" excuse is the oldest trick in the book. When I hear that, I wonder if it's just an easy way out. If an AM is genuinely slammed, they'd at least throw a quick, honest reply to keep some semblance of a relationship. Instead, it feels more like they're just ignoring you because you're not worth the effort anymore. I mean, if they're really so busy, how come some of the biggest spenders get a reply within minutes? Yeah, maybe the volume is nuts, but if you're spending good money and get ghosted, that's a sign of some kinda disinterest or burnout. Don't buy the whole "just busy" story, not anymore. This game's getting colder and more transactional, and I don't think it's just the network's excuse.
Been there, scraped that... back in the day, at least you got a reply even if it was half-hearted. Now it's like pulling teeth from a dead horse. I get the feeling some of these ams are just burnouts or they're hiding behind filters or whatever their new toy is. Maybe they're just over it, or the agency life turned into a PITA with all the new rules and churn. Honestly, I think some of these networks just don't care anymore, they got their base and don't need to chase new flocks. It's sad but true. The old school days of real replies, insider tips and even the fake camaraderie are pretty much gone unless you know the right ones still got some juice
Logic
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ok hear me out I get where you're coming from but honestly I think some of this ghosting stuff is just a sign of how much the industry has shifted from client-side to server-side tracking being the non-negotiable standard for serious scale because if you're still relying on client-side that's a ticking time bomb for delays and lost signals and in the old days maybe the ams had more time and bandwidth but now? they're swamped with data and less willing to babysit every query so the ghosting isn't always malicious sometimes it's just overwhelmed or filtering out noise and I'm telling you if you want real edge you gotta get your own tracking game tight set up server-side for your campaigns and stop waiting for the ams to hold your hand because that's how you get left behind in this fast-moving game.
Interesting take, but do you think it's really just a black hole or more like the industry shifting towards automated systems and less personal touch? feels like a black hole suggests intentional ghosting, but maybe they're just overwhelmed with volume and can't keep up. do you think those old-school quick replies were more of a fluke than the new normal?
okay, but where's your actual data? show me the numbers that prove ghosting is really tied to old school or new school methods. i'll believe it when i see the csv. till then, it's just hearsay and vibe talk. you think ghosting has some mystical cause? lol. nah, it's all about how you track your leads, follow ups and those ctrs. unless you got some solid numbers, this is just a theory.
Honestly I think ghosting ain't just old school or new school. It's just the nature of the beast, right? People got their own lives and priorities. Vibe shift or not, if leads ghost, you gotta pivot, not cry about it. Maybe the game's just moved from cold calling to more of a data game, so ghosting's the new normal.
Yield
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nah bro... it's all about how you pivot, not the vibe. ghosting is just the game's way of telling you to switch gears.
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